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Add Listing Site to Auto Responder Setup Options

Status: Released 2 Votes
Chris Hynes
Aug 22, 2017 9:31 PM
OR Team Member Joined Oct, 2012 1400 posts

This has now been released: https://www.ownerrez.com/blog/enhanced-autoresponders. We did one better than just the listing site criteria and added time of day criteria as well ;-)

Randy Juneau
Aug 12, 2017 10:15 PM
Joined May, 2012 36 posts

I would like to respond with different email content based on the listing site. Can you add the listing site as an option on the Auto Responders set up page? Since homeaway won't pass the traveler's email anymore at all, I need a different response from those i send to travelers that request quotes from my own website, and other sources.

BlueMtnCabins
Aug 13, 2017 5:42 PM
Joined Jun, 2016 1115 posts

I have asked about that also previously...

Chris Hynes
Aug 14, 2017 9:39 AM
OR Team Member Joined Oct, 2012 1400 posts

Yep, this is rising in priority. We'll keep you posted as we get into it, but it should be soon.

Chris Hynes
Aug 22, 2017 9:31 PM
OR Team Member Joined Oct, 2012 1400 posts

This has now been released: https://www.ownerrez.com/blog/enhanced-autoresponders. We did one better than just the listing site criteria and added time of day criteria as well ;-)

BlueMtnCabins
Sep 1, 2017 12:11 PM
Joined Jun, 2016 1115 posts

Just created auto responder and tested with VRBO.

Noticed a few issues with how formatting is handled.
1. If you are using bullet points in your template, they do not carry forward and text becomes all merged together without line breaks
2. Changed bullet points to separate lines. better.
3. Some words get stuck together with no spaces even though there are spaces in the template. I think it happens around variable fields or fields with format (bold, highlight etc). Suggest adding extra space before each variable field and remove any formatting as it does not show in VRBO anyway. here is the sample with :


Thank you for considering Blue Mountain Lodge for your vacation stay.

The dates you are inquiring about areavailable. Please see information about renting our cabin: <<< see "are available" merged

~ Blue Mountain Lodge is a private vacation home, rented out by owners (not a management company or an agent).

~ NO smoking ~ NO pets ~ NO house parties

~ Must be at least 25 years of age to rent, and be present during the entire stay; No third party rentals. Minors under 18 can only stay with parent, legal guardian or responsible adult, and must never be left at the property unsupervised.

~ No occupancy above 12 persons (which includes adults and children ages 0 and up) at any time during the stay.

~ Property is not reserved in your name until deposit (or full balance) is paid and booking is accepted. Availability is real time and may change after this email is sent.

~ Rental Agreement signed by primary Guest and copy of valid photo ID are required if you decide to book. If the required is not returned within 72 hours from booking acceptance, we reserve the right to cancel your booking and issue a refund.

~ 60 day cancellation policy (full refund if reservation cancelled by renter 60 or more days before the scheduled check-in).

~ We recommend obtaining Trip Cancellation insurance for your tripif your stay isduring winter months,or if you are concerned about possible Cancellation. <<< see "trip if" and "is during" merged

~ The exact address, driving directions and check in instructions will be provided after balance is paid and few days prior to check in.

~ Check in is3:00 PM ET and check out is 10:00 AM ET unless pre-arranged otherwise with the Owner in advance. Late check outs may be subject to docking of the deposit.

~ WIFI is available via satellite service (connection speed and availabilityis not guaranteed). <<< see "availability is" merged

~ Our cabin has front and back yard with firepit.

~ All roads leading to the cabin are paved.

~ 'Like' Blue Mountain Lodge on Facebook - we post updates, specials, or availability due to last minute cancellations.

Chris Hynes
Sep 1, 2017 5:56 PM
OR Team Member Joined Oct, 2012 1400 posts

Great tips and email template!

HomeAway strips out a ton of formatting from the email in their effort to block all contact info. They basically convert everything to plain text, and their conversion algorithm can jumble stuff up.

I had a look at your email template and there was still some hidden formatting in there that might have been confusing the HA system. I stripped every last bit of formatting for you -- AVAILGEN template -- try again and let me know if it looks better this time.

I wonder if we should have a "plain text only" option on templates just for this sort of thing, something that doesn't include formatting at all.

Randy Juneau
Sep 1, 2017 7:49 PM
Joined May, 2012 36 posts

Thanks Chris. I happened to look at the searches for my listings on HA/VRBO yesterday and found that I had dropped from around top 100 to about 2000 of 2500 listings in Galveston. I called HA and they said it was because my ratio of bookings to inquiries was low. They thought that my content was fine but advised I should look at my competition to see what they are doing or saying in their listings that I'm not. The fact is that I send an OR quote to the prospective guest right after I send an HA quote so I think what's happening is that a lot of guests are seeing that my OR quotes are about $100 lower booking cost than HA (because of their admin fee and insurance) and the guests are gravitating to the lower cost quote from OR. So I'm going to try to just let those book thru HA to see if I can get higher on their search rankings. They are basically catering to the owner that has 1 or 2 properties that let's HA system do everything. I looked and have a lot nicer properties at similar or lower costs than much of the top 100. Guess we have to play the game their way or get struck out.

BlueMtnCabins
Sep 3, 2017 9:16 PM
Joined Jun, 2016 1115 posts

Thank you, better. Now if I could only get a real vrbo inquiry!

BlueMtnCabins
Sep 3, 2017 9:18 PM
Joined Jun, 2016 1115 posts

Randy Juneau said:

Thanks Chris. I happened to look at the searches for my listings on HA/VRBO yesterday and found that I had dropped from around top 100 to about 2000 of 2500 listings in Galveston. I called HA and they said it was because my ratio of bookings to inquiries was low. They thought that my content was fine but advised I should look at my competition to see what they are doing or saying in their listings that I'm not. The fact is that I send an OR quote to the prospective guest right after I send an HA quote so I think what's happening is that a lot of guests are seeing that my OR quotes are about $100 lower booking cost than HA (because of their admin fee and insurance) and the guests are gravitating to the lower cost quote from OR. So I'm going to try to just let those book thru HA to see if I can get higher on their search rankings. They are basically catering to the owner that has 1 or 2 properties that let's HA system do everything. I looked and have a lot nicer properties at similar or lower costs than much of the top 100. Guess we have to play the game their way or get struck out.

I do not think that is it./ I have an under performing property - I play buy HA rules, do not book outside etc. Still under performing to the point of me thinking of not renewing. In my market also over 5000 properties, it is a vicious cycle: I do not get inquiries - the stats are low - they do not show property bc stats are low - I do not get inquiries. See property #737717

BlueMtnCabins
Mar 2, 2018 11:32 AM
Joined Jun, 2016 1115 posts

Another question about triapdvisor auto responding. is there any way to set up auto responder to reply to 1) guest email directly and 2) via TA dashboard similar to VRBO. Right now it only auto responds to guest private email and I have to log into TA dashboard and respond there to maintain the "response rate". thanks

Chris Hynes
Mar 2, 2018 12:25 PM
OR Team Member Joined Oct, 2012 1400 posts

Yep! We added support for that on the autoresponder a month or two ago. To configure, go to the autoresponder settings and pick a "double blind" template (see screenshot). You can use the same one or a different shorter one. That's currently only used for TA, but we'll be expanding it.

BlueMtnCabins
Mar 2, 2018 1:18 PM
Joined Jun, 2016 1115 posts

Thank you!